View Full Version : Screen Burn already on my 55" mits after 8 months
FTBoomerIII
01-12-2004, 08:05 AM
Well as careful as I tried to be, last night, I noticed the first signs of screen burn. This on a tv that's only 8 months old.
I've alredy switched everything to stretched mode and lowered the contrast from 40% to 30%. Is there anything else I can do? Can this be fixed?
TIA
CANDY76MAN
01-12-2004, 09:58 AM
Only way to fix burnin is to replace the crt's.
What kind of set is it and what is burnt in?...the letterbox bars from watching in 4:3 too much?
FTBoomerIII
01-12-2004, 10:23 AM
It's a Mits 55311, only 8 months old & yes it's the 4:3 and stock ticker bar.
Will leaving everything in stretch mode help at all?
CANDY76MAN
01-12-2004, 10:36 AM
It's a Mits 55311, only 8 months old & yes it's the 4:3 and stock ticker bar.
Will leaving everything in stretch mode help at all?
not really...that will keep it from getting worse (the difference between the burnt image and the rest) but once one part of the screen is burnt in different from the rest it will be that way for good....Any CRT RPTV set is burning in all the time when it's on...thats why the overall brightness of a CRT gradually drops over the years but if theres a static image in one spot a lot of the time or the letterbox's all the time then it burns in unevenly and you end up with your problem.
Look on the bright side, be glad it's not a plasma...they burn in three times as fast as CRT's from what I've seen and the only option is to buy a new one....5 to 10 grand out the window...lol
FTBoomerIII
01-12-2004, 10:43 AM
So how much are CRT's and the cost to have them installed?
chupacabra
01-12-2004, 10:57 AM
Sorry to hear about your burn-in. Intersting that your contrast was at 40% and you still had burn-in. From all I've researched that setting is in the appropriate 'safety range'.
My contrast is at 36-38 on my Hitachi but that is all relative - needless to say I am deadly afraid of burn-in and hearing stories like yours is scary, especially on a Mits with 40% contrast!
Out of curiosity, and for our education, what were your other settings? What percentage of time did you view at 4:3? Was it with black side-bars or grey? What ticker is burned in? and how many hours do you estimate that particular channel was displayed?
And finally, if you can let us know the aproximate cost of repair, parts and labor, that would be beneficial.
THanks, and good luck.
LonghornXP
01-12-2004, 12:34 PM
Well my Panny unit hasn't had any burn-in problems yet but I can tell you this much that my next HDTV set purchase will be a new DLP set because for one thing they are thinner and they don't suffer from burn-in and as for as I'm concerned I would rather change a bulb and pay for that than to ever have to worry about what I watch because of burn-in or the cost to fix a set with burn-in. I think all old sets eventually will be of the past simply because plasmas will be replaced with I think LCOS and big screens with DSL and such so that in the future all TV sets will not have burn-in problems at all. These new sets with so called anti burn-in technologies will never prevent tickers and black bars as a set can that just doesn't suffer from it period. I also see tickers and OAR and such getting more and more which will make those technologies less and less effective and sets without that problem more common to the masses.
CANDY76MAN
01-12-2004, 03:19 PM
I am beginning to think LCD flat panels may replace plasma for several reasons
1-the large LCD panels I've seen just have a better picture than any Plasma I've seen of similiar size.
2-the price is actually a little better per inch of screen realestate with LCD vs cheap plasma's (which have an inferior picture in every way) and the high end plasma's are way more expensive per inch than the large LCD's and still don't look quite as good if you ask me.
3-LCD panels can't burn in.... you can leave a LCD panel on a static image day in and day out all year and it will have no adverse effect on the screen....As I said before, Plasma burns in faster than any other display you could buy.
4-LCD requires a lot less power than Plasma.
5-I used to think they couldn't make large LCD panels but I was wrong about that...Samsung just introduced a 57" (I believe) LCD panel at comdex....along with a 80" plasma panel 8O
6-only drawback to LCD is the black level but I have no doubt they can improve that with time as they have done with plasma.
Ever watch a HD football game on an LCD? Serious motion blur, jaggies etc. Looks like crap. LCD needs a lot of improvement. They are a couple generations away. Definitely the future though.
As far a burn in, if you watch your TV stretched from now on the burn in will gradually get better as the guns wear. Not much else you can do. I had a little burn which was barely noticable. After a year or so it was gone. If it is really bad it will never go away.
FTBoomerIII
01-25-2004, 11:01 AM
As far a burn in, if you watch your TV stretched from now on the burn in will gradually get better as the guns wear. Not much else you can do. I had a little burn which was barely noticable. After a year or so it was gone. If it is really bad it will never go away.
That's what I've been doing hoping for that very thing. It's noticable to me, but no one else in the family has noticed it....yet. I'll keep it that way for a while and see if it "wears" evenly.
New plasmas have a lot of burn in prevention features. The have a mode that shifts the screen every so often. They have an all white mode which is basically torch mode to try to even out the burn in. And they have an inverse mode which is really cool. Basically put on the screen that caused the burn in and put in inverse mode for a couple hours. That way the burn in occurs on the other part of the screen thus evening it out
CANDY76MAN
01-25-2004, 10:19 PM
yes, but a plasma will lose it's brightness much faster than anything else even if you don't burnin a pattern anywhere,,,for a 4 grand plus investment they just don't hold up long enough for me to even consider one...assuming I had the money to consider one to begin with...lol :lol:
CANDY76MAN that is such BS. So much misinformation about Plasmas. Current plasmas have lifespans of 50,000 hours.
CANDY76MAN
01-26-2004, 06:06 PM
CANDY76MAN that is such BS. So much misinformation about Plasmas. Current plasmas have lifespans of 50,000 hours.
Regardless of what lifespan they may claim, (and I don't doubt that it will continue turning on for 50,000 hours..It'll be about half as bright as it was new after 50,000 hours, but it'll probly still turn on and display a image :wink: ) the fact remains that the screen is steadily losing it's brightness every hour that it's displaying, and the higher the contrast is set the faster it will happen...why do you think that "torch" mode partialy evens out burn in, I can assure you it's not reversing the burnin, it's burning in the rest of the screen more so the unevenly burnt in spot is less visible.
CRT based rptv's suffer from the same problem but not as fast and they don't cost 8 grand a pop for a decent one.
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