8 New HD Channels 12/14

[HDOrlando]

8 New HD Channels

The Hub HD Channel 1108
Big Ten Network HD on Demand Channel 1139 (Sports Pak)
Bay News 9 HD Channel 1209
GSN HD Channel 1280
Ovation HD Channel 1316
C-SPAN HD Channel 1226
EWTN HD Channel 1340
Game 2 HD (ML Extra innings and NHL Center Ice) Channel 1816


New SD Channels

Word Network Channel 164
Jewish Life Channel 165

Discontinuing on Dec 31

Docu TVE on Nuestros Canales channel 616

In addition, all the month to month deals from the last notice are still in place

[HDOrlando]

Tampa probably will get News 13 HD (Pixelbars) in their update as we got the September 30 update together.

I believe they also have Big Ten HD OD and the SD religion channels already so hopefully they land Fox Soccer HD in their update.

[HDOrlando]

The channels are now up early via the trick.

1) Go to non Start Over Channel, I use Channel 14.

2) Hold down select/ok button for 15 secs until I see dot flashing above timer on box.

3) Immediately click right arrow next to that button and type in channel number.

All channel numbers are listed above.

[rossinfl]

why not just enter channel number manually then fav place them?

these channels dont sound that good anyways

[skottey]

why not just enter channel number manually then fav place them?

these channels dont sound that good anyways

100% agreed. Bay News 9 should be well received but the rest are pretty much crap. I would MUCH RATHER see more of the HBO/Cinemax HD channesl. All 26 HBO/MAX channels are available in HD. Actually, FIOS had them all when I had FIOS but they have dropped some to make space for other channels. BHN could do better than they do!

As much as I like the multichannels of HBO/MAX that BHN has, as well as others like TCM, Investigation Discovery, G4, History International, all in HD, I am thinking about scraping BHN. I still have DirecTV and thought when I get BHN I would probably let DirecTV go eventually but I love the size of the DirecTV DVR (in comparison) and just basic things like layout of the remote control. I get so frustrated in the dark trying to fast forward with the BHN remote during commercials. With DirecTV the remote control has buttons that are easy to memorize and feel for. I am sick of randomly having to reboot the cable boxes too.

Can you tell I am annoyed with them? Today has seen really slow Internet and dropped packets all day long from my home office in St. Pete. It especially stings since I have a virtual office account and pay at least double the normal residential cost. Annoying!

[HDOrlando]

These are more niche channels being added. I like having GSN HD and The HUB HD too.

DTV apparently will be adding more HBO HD soon too.

The only place DTV is lacking is those niche HD channels but if you can go without those and bn9, it might be best for you to scrap BHN. Skottey.

[rossinfl]

you dont have bhn remote that lights up when you hit any button? if you dont you can swap it out at any of their retail locations for one.

[rossinfl]

what is the hub channel? is channel 13 the orlando version of bay news 9 channel we have here in tampa? my brother in law loves the military channel and i was just wondering if its also avl in hd?

thanks

[skottey]

you dont have bhn remote that lights up when you hit any button? if you dont you can swap it out at any of their retail locations for one.

nOPE

[HDOrlando]

I have the remote and like it.

The Hub HD used to be Discovery Kids.

It's kids programming in the day, retro family programming in primetime and they have things like family game night and movies on the weekends.

Central Florida News 13 is the Orlando version of Baynews9. Over the last year, News13 has really changed and become more in line with BayNews9. It used to be very boring and now their morning news beats the Fox affiliate in the morning and almost beat our CBS affiliate. I hate watching local news and it's nice to have a no garbage station to watch.

Military Channel is the last of the Discovery Networks left to go HD. OWN (replacing Discovery Health Jan 1) launches on HD upon launch. I saw commercials in HD for Military Channel last year but do not really see it promoted on the Discovery Networks anymore.

This could be a sign the channel might be tweaked or re-branded. We will see but given the quality of the Discovery Networks, I expect it to go HD or be re-branded/announced it will be by the middle of next year.

[rossinfl]

do you all in orlando also get baynews 9 ?

they might not have much stuff to show on hd military channel.

[rossinfl]

heres another article about ultra hd and another format of ultra hd thats between current hd and the ultra hd that they say wont be ready till 2020:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_High_Definition_Television

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Ultra High Definition Television's main specifications:

Resolution: 7,680 × 4,320 pixels (16:9) (approximately 33.2 megapixels)
Bit depth: 10-bit per channel
Colorimetry: Rec. 709
Frame rate: 60 frame/s. (progressive)
Audio: 22.2 channels
9 — above ear level (top layer)
10 — ear level (middle layer)
3 — below ear level (bottom layer)
2 — low frequency effects
Bandwidth:
UHF - 8 MHz, 35~45Mbit/s bandwidth (RAI DVB-T2 tests)
Ku-band - 2x36MHz transponders, 140~150Mbit/s bandwidth (DVB-S2)
Ka-band - 600 MHz, 500~6600Mbit/s bandwidth

UHDTV resolution shown in comparison to HD and SD formats.
UHDTV resolution comparability
A UHDTV cameraUltra High Definition Television (UHDTV) (or Ultra HDTV, 4320p, and Ultra High Definition Video (UHDV)) is an experimental digital video format, currently proposed by NHK of Japan, the BBC, and RAI.[1] Wide Quad High Definition (WQHD) and Quad Full High Definition (QFHD) are not the same resolution as that of UHDTV and represent intermediate resolutions mid-way between those of HDTV and UHDTV.

NHK is advocating this video format as Super Hi-Vision (SHV).

Contents [hide]
1 Experimental technology
2 See also
3 Notes and references
4 External links


[edit] Experimental technology
Since this format is highly experimental, NHK researchers had to build their own prototype from scratch. In the system demonstrated in September 2003, they used an array of 16 HDTV recorders to capture the 30-minute-long test footage.

The camera itself was built with four 2.5 inch (64 mm) CCDs, each with a resolution of only 3840 × 2048. Using two CCDs for green and one each for red and blue, they then used a spatial pixel offset method[2] to bring it to 7680 × 4320.[3]

The system was demonstrated at Expo 2005, Aichi, Japan, the NAB 2006 and NAB 2007 conferences, Las Vegas, at IBC 2006 and IBC 2008,[4] Amsterdam, Netherlands, and CES 2009. A review of the NAB 2006 demo was published in a Broadcast Engineering e-newsletter.[5]

In November 2005, NHK demonstrated a live relay of UHDTV program over a distance of 260 km by a fiber optic network. Using dense wavelength division multiplex (DWDM), 24 Gbit/s speed was achieved with a total of 16 different wavelength signals.

On December 31, 2006, NHK demonstrated a live relay of their annual Kōhaku Uta Gassen over IP from Tokyo to a 450 inch (11.4 m) screen in Osaka. Utilizing a codec developed by NHK, the video was compressed from 24 Gbit/s to 180–600 Mbit/s and the audio was compressed from 28 Mbit/s to 7–28 Mbit/s.[6] Uncompressed, a 20 minute broadcast would require roughly 4TB of storage.

In another indoor demonstration at the NHK Open House, the UHDTV signal was compressed to a 250 Mbit/s MPEG2 stream. This was later input to a 300 MHz wide band modulator and broadcast using a 500 MHz QPSK modulation. This "on the air" transmission had a very limited range (less than 2 meters), but shows the feasibility of a satellite transmission in the 36,000 km orbit.

In 2008, Aptina Imaging announced the introduction of a new CMOS Image sensor specifically designed for the NHK UHDTV project.[7]

The BBC also appears to be interested in the technology. During IBC 2008 Japan's NHK, Italy's RAI, the BBC, RTE, Sony, Samsung, and Panasonic (with various partners) demonstrated the first ever public live transmission of UHDTV, from London to the conference site in Amsterdam.[8][9]

In addition, it was demonstrated at the BBC's Media Centre in West London in early October 2008. The BBC has been looking into the use of its Dirac codec with UHDTV.

On September 29, 2010, The BBC and NHK partnered up and recorded The Charlatans live in the UK in the UHDTV format, before broadcasting over the internet to Japan.[10]

Although UHDTV has increased resolution compared with existing HD standards, it uses the same number of frames per second (50 or 60 Hz, whereas modern cinema films are usually 24 Hz).

The ultimate goal is for UHDTV to be available in domestic homes, though the timeframe for this happening varies between 2016 to 2020 (mainly based on supported technical reasons concerning storage and broadcast distribution of content).[11]

Standards that deal with UHDTV include:

ITU BT 1201
ITU 1769
SMPTE 2036
[edit] See also
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: UHDV
22.2 - the audio component of UHDTV
High Efficiency Video Coding (HEVC)
IMAX - has roughly the same number of pixels as UHDTV[12]

[rossinfl]

and the audio that would go along with this new ultra hd is 22.2 audio channels as in 3 layers of surround sound with 2 subwoofers and 22 speakers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/22.2


22.2
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22.2 or Hamasaki 22.2 (named after Kimio Hamasaki, a senior research engineer at NHK Science & Technical Research Laboratories in Japan) is the surround sound component of Ultra High Definition Television (a new television standard with 16 times the pixel resolution of HDTV). It has been developed by NHK Science & Technical Research Laboratories.[1] It uses 24 speakers (including two subwoofers) arranged in three layers.[2]

Contents [hide]
1 Speaker positions
1.1 Upper layer: Nine speakers above ear level
1.2 Middle layer: Ten speakers at ear level
1.3 Lower layer: Five speakers below ear level
2 Demonstrations
3 Reviews
4 See also
5 References


[edit] Speaker positions
The speakers are arranged in three layers.[3] Note that the top center channel is a speaker placed in the center of the ceiling and pointing straight down toward the listening area.[4]

[edit] Upper layer: Nine speakers above ear level
Top-Front-Left
Top-Side-Left
Top-Back-Left
Top-Front-Center
Top-Center
Top-Back-Center
Top-Front-Right
Top-Side-Right
Top-Back-Right


[edit] Middle layer: Ten speakers at ear level
Front-Left
Side-Left
Back-Left
Front-Left-of-Center
Front-Center
Back-Center
Front-Right-of-Center
Front-Right
Side-Right
Back-Right


[edit] Lower layer: Five speakers below ear level
Bottom-Front-Left
Left-Subwoofer
Bottom-Front-Center
Bottom-Front-Right
Right-Subwoofer


[edit] Demonstrations
Expo 2005, Aichi, Japan
NAB Show 2006, Las Vegas
IBC 2006, Amsterdam, Netherlands
IBC 2008, Amsterdam, Netherlands[5]
NAB Show 2009, Las Vegas
[edit] Reviews
"Ultra HD draws crowds, interest at NAB2006". BroadcastEngineering HD Technology Update e-newsletter. 2006-05-02. http://broadcastengineering.com/newsletters/hd_tech/20060502/ultra-hd-interest-20060502/. Retrieved 2007-02-14.
[edit] See also
10.2
Surround sound
Ultra High Definition Television

[rossinfl]

now if only 2020 would get here so i could watch awesome movies on this new ultra hd format and then have it in 22.2 dolby digital or whatever it will be called by then surround sound with sound coming from above me and below me

like christoper walken said when he got show by stiffler in that movie that also had the rock in it:

WWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[rossinfl]

another article below is about he next surround sound system coming our way most likely. it states that the 6.1 and 7.1 systems out there are not really adding much to the 5.1 dolby digital/dts sound.


and heres a story about 10.2 surround sound which will probably be the next step in home theaters:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10.2


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Speaker configuration for 10.2 channel surround sound10.2 is the surround sound format developed by THX creator Tomlinson Holman of TMH Labs and University of Southern California (schools of Cinematic Arts and Engineering). Developed along with Chris Kyriakakis of the USC Viterbi School of Engineering, 10.2 refers to the format's slogan: "Twice as good as 5.1". However, there actually may be 14 discrete channels if the left and right point surround channels are included. 10.2 is considered by Holman to be "the next feasible step" in surround sound, but certainly not the end. He states that 5.1, a name which he himself came up with in 1987, was chosen as it was "the MINIMUM number of channels necessary to give a sense of spaciousness".[1] Holman and others state that higher sampling rates, which is a recent trend in digital recording, does not have a significant perceivable effect and that the next frontier in sound engineering is to increase the number of discrete channels to meet human spatial sound perception.[2]

Contents [hide]
1 Channel Configurations
1.1 10.2
1.2 12.2
2 Installations
3 Media
4 References
5 External links


[edit] Channel Configurations
10.2 surround sound would add four more channel to the front listening area and only one surround channel. This is because human spatial perception of sound is much more precise in the front than in the back. In addition it adds depth to the sound field with two of the front channels being height channels, located above the listening area at 45 degrees relative to the listener.[3] Lack of vertical information has long been considered one of the largest obstacles to truly realistic sound reproduction.[4] Existing systems such as Dolby Pro Logic IIz and DSP systems simulate this with matrixed height channels, which are derived from ambient sounds from the left and right channels.

The ".2" in 10.2 refers to the fact that an additional Low Frequency Effects channel is added, not just a second subwoofer, to enhance the sense of envelopment. All bass from the left channels are directed to a left LFE channel while right channel bass is directed to the right LFE channel.

[edit] 10.2
The 12 channels of 10.2:

Seven front channels: Left Wide, Left Height, Left, Center, Right, Right Height, Right Wide
Three surround channels: Left Surround, Back Surround, Right Surround
Two LFE channels: LFE Left and LFE Right
10.2 may also augment the LS (left surround) and RS (right surround) channels by two point surround channels that can more finely manipulate sound—allowing the mixer to shift sounds in a distinct 360° circle around the movie watcher. This would actually make it 12.2

[edit] 12.2
The only addition with 12.2 from 10.2 are the "point surround" or "diffuse surround" channels. These would be placed at the same angles as the standard surround speakers at +/-120 degrees, but would be diffuse radiators using dipole speakers. They would emit sound to reflect off the walls before arriving at the listening area.[5] The 14 discrete channels are:


Setup with point surround channelsFive front speakers: Left Wide, Left, Center, Right and Right Wide
Five surround channels: Left Surround Diffuse, Left Surround Direct, Back Surround, Right Surround Diffuse and Right Surround Direct
Two LFE channels: LFE Left, LFE Right
Two Height channels: Left Height, Right Height
The .2 of the 10.2 refers to the addition of a second subwoofer. The system is bass managed such that all the speakers on the left side use the left sub and all the speakers on the right use the right sub. The Center and Back Surround speaker are split among the two subs. The two subs also serve as two discrete LFE (Low Frequency Effects) channels.

[edit] Installations
A 10.2 surround sound system was demonstrated at Audyssey in Los Angeles and at Bjorn's Audio Video in San Antonio, Texas.

New York University claims to have two 10.2 surround sound systems setup in their new state-of-the-art 6.5 million dollar music technnology complex at Steinhardt School. One in a recording studio and one in a screening room.[6][7] Products are already being sold to accommodate 10.2 surround systems such as in-wall speaker jacks.[8]

Currently, there is only a standard for 5.1 surround setups. 6.1 and 7.1 have no real standard, and add channels to the rear instead of the front, which can only be conceived as a marketing tool as sonically the front is where more channels are needed. Audyssey has stated that one fear of marketing 10.2 systems will be that ironically quality might be decreased instead of increased. This is because marketers will push to keep prices relatively the same and to do that with four additional speakers and two subwoofers will almost certainly cost quality.[9]

[edit] Media
There is currently only one film available which uses this format, a 30-minute short called Seven Swans. The other 10.2 mixes were created live by Holman and others at the demonstrations.

There are some receivers that claim to be "10.2 channels" such as the Pioneer Elite SC-09TX but really they just have multiple 6, 7, or 8 channel decoders.[10]

[edit] References
^ http://www.audioholics.com/education/surround-sound/audyssey-dsx-10.2
^ http://www.audioholics.com/news/on-location-articles/on-location-with-audyssey-laboratories/introducing-the-10-2-surround-format
^ http://www.tonmeister.ca/main/textbook/node776.html
^ http://www.stereophile.com/news/10489/
^ http://www.tonmeister.ca/main/textbook/node776.html
^ http://blog.digitalcontentproducer.com/briefingroom/2009/12/14/nyu-unveils-65-million-21st-century-music-technology-complex-at-steinhardt-school/
^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiNYLvRs0v0
^ http://www.opentip.com/Electronics-Computers/Structured-Cable-Gang-For-Surround-Sound-White-p-1342625.html
^ http://www.audioholics.com/education/surround-sound/audyssey-dsx-10.2/part-two-the-10-2-room
^ http://www.alpha-electronics.net/proddetail.asp?prod=sc09tx
[edit] External links
TMH Labs
Audio Video Revolution article
Bjorn's, San Antonio, Texas 10.2 installation
Audioholics Magazine 10.2 overview

[HDOrlando]

We do have baynews9 now here in Orlando. It's nice to have.

Military Channel HD probably does not and would not be shocked if they re-branded it. Military History which I think is an A and E network probably has done. My Dad says they show same stuff over and over again.

The Super HD sounds amazing.

By 2020, I'll be ready to buy a new TV again and future looks very bright.

By then, stretchovision will be 1080p. LOL!

[rossinfl]

if this ultra hd and 22.2 dolby digital/dts surround sound setup for home theaters actually is in our homes anytime in the next 10 to 20 years it would be a major blow to going to the movies at the multiplex

the article does say you would need a hdtv between 80 to 90 inches b/c of the pixels in the ultra hd format

[HDOrlando]

Damn!

We would all probably only be able to fit that in the living room.

On the movie threaters, maybe they would wake up and finally realize they are too damn expensive.

[rossinfl]

did anyone of you see the show on the science hd channel called beyond tomorrow?

it sucks they dont have new episodes anymore but one show they talked about a company building a 1 room home and showed how everything would work in it. they had lots of drop down stuff like the bed, kitchen stuff etc. that can be put back up to make room for other stuff. it was way cool. now if only they made a big 1 room house that would fit the 80 inch ultra hd in it coming in 2020 or maybe earlier it would be ALL GOOD