MSNBC-HD changes screen format

[Roger 9]

I think the powers that be finally got it. MSNBC finally got rid of that info side-bar on the right to go with a full screen picture. It repeated the same evening promotions day after day and was a virtual duplication of the bottom scroll.

Good job. By uncluttering what was on the screen it made viewing a better experience. :D

ON EDIT: Never mind. As soom as the "Morning Meeting was over they reverted back to the cluttered format. :(

[HDOrlando]

It's a start.

I get MSNBC HD on Nov 19 and based on what I've seen, I'd like it to be different in the daytime with a full screen.

Glad there is another MSNBC guy on this forum other than myself and Amel.

[Roger 9]

It was a small issue but a contributing one when I dropped BH to go back to satellite. I waited and waited for them to add MSNBC-HD and nada.

To me, Fox News is unwatchable, CNN is pretty good but I prefer MSNBC.

[HDOrlando]

Right now, Dish is the only in both Orlando and Tampa with it.

FIOS does not have it because of a cablevision exclusive deal in the northwest and they want it broken and the Conn. AG is trying to legally do this before they pick up MSNBC HD.

DTV is just in a transition and need to get sold, get a CEO and get that satelite up so they can add some more goodies.

I'm with you on Fox being unwatchable and cannot wait until Nov 19.

[AmelFl]

I am really starting to hate CNN, I dont watch Fox News at all...

but CNN has become such a douchebag network, its unbelievable

I can't stand John King, Dobbs and Brown

it really does not have anything to do with them of being in the center, they are just boring

[AmelFl]

btw Dylan is great

I really enjoy his show when I can see it

[EdRay]

I agree and am really looking forward to MSNBC-HD arriving on BHN in November. Fox News is a terrible waste and is taking up valuable HD space. CNN is old and is in desperate need of a complete overhaul.
In my view BHN is doing a good job with programming. Don't want to start a controversy but I'm pleased with their service and picture quality.

[skottey]

I think the powers that be finally got it. MSNBC finally got rid of that info side-bar on the right to go with a full screen picture. It repeated the same evening promotions day after day and was a virtual duplication of the bottom scroll.

Good job. By uncluttering what was on the screen it made viewing a better experience. :D

ON EDIT: Never mind. As soom as the "Morning Meeting was over they reverted back to the cluttered format. :(

That is how Fox News HD started, with a side bar. This is the price of it being a viewer with one of the few carriers that carry it. Once they get more carriers on board and more of the shows go 16x9 and actual HD, it will go away more and more of the time. Now almost everything is HD on Fox News except for the Saturday business block (I think those shows are also syndicated on Fox Broadcast channels like Fox News Sunday is). I think Fox New's Red Eye was SD last time I checked as well, but everything else is HD. Keeping in mind of course many of the remote guests or remote feeds of other tyes, as well as stock footage, are not in HD. But all the shows are in HD and studio stuff. MSNBC will get there I am sure.

It was very annoying in the afternoon on Fox News when they had the boxes on the right AND the normal top,middle, bottom boxes on the right that Martha McCallum does. So there was an outside set of boxes on the HD channel and then the 3 boxes inside on the show. It was crowded.

[Roger 9]

The morning block from 6-10 am and evening from 5 pm on, those shows are in 16x9 with information on the top and bottom. All other shows have the screen cluttered with so much stuff you have to have your brain going in four directions to follow it all. Information and graphic overload.

It's like sports on networks and RSNs where they are hell bent on doing the same to shrink the actual game to something like 16x5. They have the technology to put yellow first down markers on the field but they can't get the info bars to be flush to the top and bottom? Players heads disappear behind them, plays obscured depending on where it is on the screen and other annoyances. Watching hockey in HD is beautiful but camera angles can't make up for all the crapola.

Just once would I like to see a network hire Joe Average Watcher to point out these things because the so-called geniuses can't see what everyone else does.

[CANDY76MAN]

Fox News is a terrible waste and is taking up valuable HD space. CNN is old and is in desperate need of a complete overhaul.
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umm, a LOT more people watch Fox news than cnn or msnbc so saying it's a waste and taking up valuable hd space is a pretty ignorant statement, if anything the opposite is true but I wouldn't say that because I think the market should dictate what channels are a waste, not EdRay or me.

[skottey]

umm, a LOT more people watch Fox news than cnn or msnbc so saying it's a waste and taking up valuable hd space is a pretty ignorant statement, if anything the opposite is true but I wouldn't say that because I think the market should dictate what channels are a waste, not EdRay or me.

I agree. I am a Fox News man myself and I wouldn't say MSNBC HD would be a waste at all. I never watch it, but I would still rather have it than not have it. I want the entire lineup to be HD. Somebody is watching MSNBC (although the numbers are WAY LESS than Fox News, even combined with CNN) and they deserve their channel in HD. The ONLY channels I consider a waste are shopping channels in HD like QVC, which pay to be on the lineup as opposed to being paid like a normal channel, and HD PPV that is staggered with every 15-30 minute start times of the same movies.

[Roger 9]

I am not advocating the removal of FOX News because the ripple effect could change how we watch TV on all their other properties, including sports.

FOX News has higher ratings than MSNBC and CNN, granted, that doesn't make their journalistic approach better than the other two. We can argue the merits of each and have nothing left but a pissing match which I am not about to start. My statement about FOX News being unwatchable stems from their coverage of "news" not just politics.

My complaint about MSNBC is the same for all stations that sees it necessary to shrink a 16x9 to where graphics seem to occupy more of the screen than the actual picture.

Outside of their flagship shows in the am and pm, they have a big bar on top, side and bottom and when they do a split screen I cringe because it brings me back to when I had everything on a 13" SD screen.

[HDOrlando]

I'm with Skottey.

I want everything in HD. Unlike him, I'm an MSNBC guy who does not think much of Fox News.

Whether Fox News is or is not bad journalist does not matter. It's something people and some of my friends like to watch. Even though I do not watch it, I still want it in HD like I do my whole channel lineup.

All of us want death to SD someday and when all of the channels switch to this format, we will be a step closer to the goal.

[Roger 9]

Ditto to the all HD all the time.

[Roger 9]

Apparently, GE must read this board. MSNBC is in full screen mode. That ghastly information bar on the right is gone and all programming is 16x9, sans split screens or interviews with SD cameras.

Picture is terrific.

[HDOrlando]

Even DayTime programming?

This would be great as I will have MSNBC HD at this time next week.

[Palmateer]

A LOT more people watch Fox news than CNN or MSNBC.

Perhaps some CNN fans will be thrilled to know Lou Dobbs is gone.

[Roger 9]

Even DayTime programming?

This would be great as I will have MSNBC HD at this time next week.

ALL daytime programming! I'm watching the post-Holder PC about the terrorist trials in NYC and even the remote cameras from DC are 16x9.

As far as ClusterFox, yeah they have more viewers but I have this need for REAL news. The only thing Murdoch has going for him, IMHO, is the New York Post SPORTS. :D

[HDOrlando]

Doesn't the N.Y. Post still have peter Vecsey?

LOL!

Fox News is nothing but a right-wing tabloid. MSNBC exposes their lies.

[Bschneider]

Fox News is nothing but a right-wing tabloid. MSNBC exposes their lies.


Please keep this type of talk off the thread. This is not a place for this. Thanks.

[HDOrlando]

My bad Bschneider