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jrfsu1
12-03-2003, 03:06 PM
Greg or anybody,

Is there any word That Bright House is going to get this unit soon , since they are allready shipping it to TW ????


Release Date: December 03, 2003




Scientific-Atlanta Innovation Delivers Dual Tuner DVR/HD Set-Top to Time Warner Cable

—Time Warner Cable-Green Bay Division to deploy Explorer 8000HD—

Anaheim, CA, The Western Show – Scientific-Atlanta announced today the availability of its integrated dual tuner high-definition digital video recorder set-top solution. The new Explorer® 8000HD™ High Definition Digital Video Recorder (DVR) will deliver two highly compelling video services – the control and convenience of a Digital Video Recorder and stunning High Definition Television (HDTV) video with digital surround sound. The industry leader in the deployment of DVRs and high-definition television service, Time Warner Cable is now initiating the deployment of HD/DVR set tops in its Green Bay Division, which serves over 150,000 customers in northeast Wisconsin .

“The combination of HD’s incredible video and audio and the ability to watch television on your own time creates a fantastic entertainment experience for our customers,” said John Lochner, vice president of marketing, Time Warner Cable-Green Bay. “The payback on our investment in digital, high definition and DVR capabilities comes in two ways – highly satisfied customers and new avenues for revenue and growth.”

“Our Explorer 8000HD high definition digital video recorder product offers a tremendous opportunity for cable operators to aggressively go after and win back satellite’s best subscribers,” said Michael Harney, corporate senior vice president and president of Subscriber Networks, Scientific-Atlanta. “The combination of fourth-generation HDTV technology and dual tuner HD-DVR capability, along with the availability of HD-VOD entertainment content in the future, will create an outstanding and unsurpassed entertainment experience for cable subscribers.”

The 8000HD represents the next step in the progression of the proven Scientific-Atlanta DVR platform. Scientific-Atlanta has shipped more than 500,000 Explorer 8000 DVR set-tops to date. With the addition of HD capability, cable operators can take advantage of this leading edge set-top technology to further enhance their video offering, increase subscriber satisfaction, and enable new revenue streams. With cable TV’s large number of HD programming channels, the combination of DVR and HD holds great potential as a valuable marketing tool for cable operators as they compete with DBS for customers. And, with the growth and revenue potential that HD video on demand (VOD) service provides, cable operators can extend the benefits of their investment in the Explorer 8000HD.

“The new 8000HD expands the popularity of the DVR experience as HD content is added to the consumer’s viewing options,” added Harney. “In Scientific-Atlanta’s more than 20 years of delivering set-tops, rarely has there been such a wave of enthusiasm from consumers toward their cable operators that compares with the favorable response we have seen associated with the availability of DVR.”

About Scientific-Atlanta
Scientific-Atlanta, Inc. (NYSE: SFA - http://www.scientificatlanta.com) is a leading supplier of digital content distribution systems, transmission networks for broadband access to the home, digital interactive set-tops and subscriber systems designed for video, high-speed Internet and voice over IP (VoIP) networks, and worldwide customer service and support.

"Forward-looking statements," as defined in the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, may be included in this news release. A variety of factors could cause Scientific-Atlanta's actual results to differ from the anticipated results expressed in such forward-looking statements. Investors are referred to Scientific-Atlanta's Cautionary Statements (Exhibit 99.1 to the Company's most recent Form 10-Q), which statements are incorporated into this news release by reference.

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Peggy Ballard, Scientific-Atlanta, +1.770.236.7871, +1.770.236.3088/fax, peggy.ballard@sciatl.com

Sara Stutzenstein, Scientific-Atlanta, +1.770.236.2181, +1.770.236.3088/fax, sara.stutzenstein@sciatl.com

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bdraw
12-03-2003, 03:36 PM
I have heard rumors that BHN is currently testing these.
Unfortunatly I don't know anyone that is a BHN beta tester, so I can't confirm it.

supajef
12-03-2003, 04:24 PM
I am assuming that HD can be recorded on this. Wasn't sure if it just a PVR box that is capable of displaying HD also. I really hope we get an HD PVR soon that would be sweet.

Max_Gator
12-03-2003, 06:28 PM
I am assuming that HD can be recorded on this. Wasn't sure if it just a PVR box that is capable of displaying HD also. I really hope we get an HD PVR soon that would be sweet.

I had the same question but it appears it records HD:

"combination of fourth-generation HDTV technology and dual tuner HD-DVR capability, along with the availability of HD-VOD entertainment content in the future, will create an outstanding and unsurpassed entertainment experience for cable subscribers.

Max_Gator
12-03-2003, 06:29 PM
Also, what better group to beta this product than those on this forum!!

CANDY76MAN
12-03-2003, 06:41 PM
I wonder what kind of compression it will use for the hd?...it will have to compress it severely to even get a halfway decent amount of recording time on a 80 gb harddrive....the WM9 hd compression is the best I'm aware of and even that can only squeeze hd down to aprox. 2 gbs per hour of hd video...about twice what sd video uses....maybe they stick a 250 gb hard drive in it?...thats would be sweet :D

I wonder how much it will degrade the recorded hd as well....I already know the SA box doesn't do all that hot a job with Sd video....not as good as tivo's do anyway.

bdraw
12-03-2003, 07:02 PM
I wonder what kind of compression it will use for the hd?...it will have to compress it severely to even get a halfway decent amount of recording time on a 80 gb harddrive....the WM9 hd compression is the best I'm aware of and even that can only squeeze hd down to aprox. 2 gbs per hour of hd video...about twice what sd video uses....maybe they stick a 250 gb hard drive in it?...thats would be sweet :D

I wonder how much it will degrade the recorded hd as well....I already know the SA box doesn't do all that hot a job with Sd video....not as good as tivo's do anyway.


No recompresion. This box just takes the data stream off the wire and writes it to disk. About 8gb per hour, so 80gb will only give you 10 hours.

To me I would rather have a replaytv. But a replay will cost me more, and is not able to record two shows at once.

Get the specs here
http://www.sciatl.com/customers/source/4004400.pdf

CANDY76MAN
12-03-2003, 08:07 PM
I wonder what kind of compression it will use for the hd?...it will have to compress it severely to even get a halfway decent amount of recording time on a 80 gb harddrive....the WM9 hd compression is the best I'm aware of and even that can only squeeze hd down to aprox. 2 gbs per hour of hd video...about twice what sd video uses....maybe they stick a 250 gb hard drive in it?...thats would be sweet :D

I wonder how much it will degrade the recorded hd as well....I already know the SA box doesn't do all that hot a job with Sd video....not as good as tivo's do anyway.


No recompresion. This box just takes the data stream off the wire and writes it to disk. About 8gb per hour, so 80gb will only give you 10 hours.

To me I would rather have a replaytv. But a replay will cost me more, and is not able to record two shows at once.

Get the specs here
http://www.sciatl.com/customers/source/4004400.pdf

ouch :?

well...I hope BHN puts some better recording options in the new one at least so I don't have to record 4 hours of video for a one hour show....then I might have room to record a few hd shows now and then without first spending ten minutes deleting 20 duplicate recordings.

bdraw
12-03-2003, 09:22 PM
ouch :?

well...I hope BHN puts some better recording options in the new one at least so I don't have to record 4 hours of video for a one hour show....then I might have room to record a few hd shows now and then without first spending ten minutes deleting 20 duplicate recordings.

If you read the specs you will see that the unit is availibe with a 160gb HD, DVI, and Firewire.

Lets hope when BHN does offer the 8000HD, the get these features, and fix the software.

CANDY76MAN
12-03-2003, 10:06 PM
ouch :?

well...I hope BHN puts some better recording options in the new one at least so I don't have to record 4 hours of video for a one hour show....then I might have room to record a few hd shows now and then without first spending ten minutes deleting 20 duplicate recordings.

If you read the specs you will see that the unit is availibe with a 160gb HD, DVI, and Firewire.

Lets hope when BHN does offer the 8000HD, the get these features, and fix the software.

Yeah but I'de be really suprised if bhn springs for the 160 gb version...it's extra cost for something that they won't really be able to charge extra for.

Viremia
12-04-2003, 06:55 AM
Yeah but I'de be really suprised if bhn springs for the 160 gb version...it's extra cost for something that they won't really be able to charge extra for.
I hope you're wrong, but I have a feeling you aren't. We can only hope. :?

Max_Gator
12-04-2003, 08:53 AM
ouch :?

well...I hope BHN puts some better recording options in the new one at least so I don't have to record 4 hours of video for a one hour show....then I might have room to record a few hd shows now and then without first spending ten minutes deleting 20 duplicate recordings.

If you read the specs you will see that the unit is availibe with a 160gb HD, DVI, and Firewire.

Lets hope when BHN does offer the 8000HD, the get these features, and fix the software.

Yeah but I'de be really suprised if bhn springs for the 160 gb version...it's extra cost for something that they won't really be able to charge extra for.

I hope you are wrong also - it would be very shortsighted.

A box that only has 10 hour capacity is extremely limited and likely to make me look at other HD time shifting alternatives. Moreover, as HD begins to become a bigger presence in the marketplace, their boxes will become obsolete with an 80 GB drive.

Providing 10 hours of recording time is likely to get a "Big Whupp" response from any satellite customer thinking of making the change.

wilkinsjme
12-04-2003, 11:12 AM
Couldn't you plug your own external hard drive into the firewire port for extra storage capacity?

Viremia
12-04-2003, 03:04 PM
Couldn't you plug your own external hard drive into the firewire port for extra storage capacity?
I would assume the OS of the PVR would have to support that. I don't know if they'll include that but it wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd still rather see a larger permanent hard drive.

bdraw
12-04-2003, 07:34 PM
Couldn't you plug your own external hard drive into the firewire port for extra storage capacity?

Yes and no.
The firewire port on this device will me the same physical port, but the higher layers will not be the same.
You shoul be able to copy the data over to a AV/HDD like the DVR10 (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000BZHBR/102-4251256-4820907?v=glance)

Starting next year also BHN has agreed to give STB's with firewire ubon request so that you can record without a 8000HD straight to a AV/HDD[/url]

Hop
12-14-2003, 09:41 PM
My Zenith OTA receiver records only 7.5 hrs of HD but is sure comes in handy.

millerman101
12-16-2003, 10:04 PM
Candyman, bhn doesnt write the software, they get it from SA. But hopefully SA does a better job at it because my TIVO DID work a whole lot better, just a pain for it to switch the channel for you..

CANDY76MAN
12-16-2003, 11:02 PM
Candyman, bhn doesnt write the software, they get it from SA. But hopefully SA does a better job at it because my TIVO DID work a whole lot better, just a pain for it to switch the channel for you..

Are you sure?...because I've read on other forums where people had the same box through their cable company (in other states) but it had recording options that mine doesn't.

millerman101
12-16-2003, 11:18 PM
yes, talk to that gm mcglauglin...sorry if i screwed the name up! Hes talked about it before.. there was a big thread on it.